Archive for September, 2008

Posted on September 24, 2008 - by Richard

Efie Info …How important for Your HHO System?

This efie info is a must if you are installing a hho system in your car. Why? Because not all gasoline engines have the same types of oxygen sensors. Remember: We are talking about fuel injected gas engines here. If you have a carburated engine then this is not for you.

Whenever we talk about efie info, we are dealing with a efie device to alter the oxygen sensor reading during the time hho gas is mixed with your fuel. Problem here is after you got the hho generator installed, you have to figure out how to connect the oxygen sensor wirings? As you will see, oxygen sensor could have a single wire, 3 wires or even 5 wires or more. Our objective here is to find the oxygen sensor signal wire and that is what we need to connect to the efie device.

As longs as your gas engine has 4 wires or less, this efie info should be used: find which wire is the SIGNAL wire and that is the wire you are looking for. You can confirm that by using a volt meter. When your engine is running at idle (after 10-15 minutes of warmed up), that signal wire should read between 0.1volt to 0.9volt. And that reading is fluctuating all the time between those 2 voltage and they are not suppose to pass 1 volt.

It does not matter what color of wire it is as long as there is voltage oscillation, that is your SIGNAL wire. Shown here below is a Utube video showing a hho system being monitored by scangage and a efie device.

Here is video efie info 1
Here is video efie info 2

This test assumes that the efie is used on a 4 wire or less oxygen sensor. If the engine has 5 wires of more, the test for the oxygen sensor signal wire is completely different. For the meantime, before buying your efie device, make sure the efie vendor will guarantee to you that it will work on a 5 or more wires oxygen sensor if your engine has those types. Otherwise, ask for a complete instruction on how it is done. Failure to do this can make your efie useless. I hope this efie info has helped you.

Another Efie info TIP:

1.) The 5 or more wires oxygen sensor is called wide band oxygen sensor
2.) On some imports, wide band oxygen sensors could come in 4 wires. Make sure to check your vehicle dealer parts or ATS before connecting your efie device to your oxygen sensor.

Posted on September 23, 2008 - by Richard

Hydrogen Fuel Cell Installation Help…Do You Really Need It?

The short answer here would be that many people don’t really know what exactly a hydrogen fuel cell installation is, let alone how to do it.  Keep in mind, the information you’re about to read isn’t coming from someone with a Clickbank link at the bottom of their article.  I’ve been a certified mechanic for several years and want to help answer questions that people like you have about these fuel savers.

A hydrogen fuel cell installation is basically the device that the water is held in where HHO gas can be extracted.  While we don’t want to bore you with all the technical talk here, it’s just a different name for these fuel savers you see on the Internet.  Is it a perfected system?  No.  Is it helping people saving money on gas?  Yes.  Can it do the same for you?  It can, but only if you have everything set up properly.

There are several reasons why you really need help in hydrogen fuel cell installation, but to keep this short we’ll just go over a couple.  When you read about fuel savers, one of the first things they tell you is that you don’t have to be “mechanic savvy.”  Okay, that may be true, but in order to get the results you want, it’s better to have someone who knows what they’re doing install it.  Wanna know why?

Besides the possible damage you can do to your vehicle, getting a real education on these fuel savers along the way is priceless.  Anyone who puts a hydrogen fuel cell underneath the hood of a car that is two years old is not going to see the same results as a ten-year-old car.  There are many different variables involved like the specific lengths of the HHO gas routing line, how you could end up raising engine temperatures.

This revolves around the EFIE.  If you don’t know what that is, you should when dealing with a hydrogen fuel cell installation.  It stands for Electronic Fuel Injection Enhancer and this must be monitored at all times or your engine could be damaged by extreme temperatures.  Fuel savers are the wave of the future, that much is evident.  However, if you don’t know all the ins and outs you could end up creating more problems, which the fuel economy will be the least of your problems. Feel free to ask ATS if you have any questions or leave your comments below.

Posted on September 22, 2008 - by Richard

Another HHO Tips For Fuel Gas Savers!

These hho tips refer to the Utube video I saw the other day showing a hho gas generator installed on a truck or minivan. It showed the hho generator showing 3 hydrogen cells connected together. The question is why?

Some vehicle engines especially those with sizes ranging from 5.0L to 6.0L would need a bigger output of hho gas. With a typical stand alone generator, the number of plates used for electrolysis is pretty limited. So when it is operating, problems like generator cell overheating and insufficient hho gas flow can occur. To resolve this, here are a few hho tips being done by some vendors:

Adding a hho gas cooler to the system

Using a condenser coil infront of your radiator where the hho gas is made to circulate, it can lower the hho gas generator cell temperature. And from what I have seen from a hho vendor, he added a circulating pump to increase the gas flow rate. This helps resolve both issues of overheating and insufficient hho gas production.

With this feature, it can avoid the installation of multiple hho cells which require a bigger space in your engine compartment. With this hho tip, there is a downside though: the added cost of the condenser coil and circulating pump can easily jack up your over-all hho investment roughly by 30%-40%. However, if you look at a more stable hho production without worrying about overheating, this might be a good route to go. As per vendor findings after prolong testings, the maintenance cost of this set up is much smaller.

Another hho tips success story:

Shown in this utube video is hho gas generator using 3 hydrogen cells. As per the person who made the video, he gained 34% mpg gas savings. Please treat this with caution because it does not show exactly what electronic extensions were used like PWM, EFIE or MAP enhancer. Should you need any assistance on this, please contact ATS or leave a comment below regarding these hho tips.

Please check with your local city by-laws before performing any hho conversion in your vehicle engines. When in doubt, please check ATS recommended strategies in our previous blogs.

Posted on September 21, 2008 - by Richard

Water Gas MPG Test Shows 43% Increase!

Another water gas mpg test done in Sept.1.2008 was shown in Utube showing a 2006 Dodge Ram truck gaining incredible gas mileage increase. The HHO generator itself got 22% by itself but when the EFIE oxygen enhancer was added, a further increase was gained for a total of 43%.

Actually, this 2006 Dodge Ram test was shown earlier on my previous blog but this one is more detailed. In this water gas mpg test video three different tests were shown showing the following results:

1.) Basic mpg test showing the mpg without HHO and EFIE to determine the baseline mpg.

2.) Mpg test showing the fuel savings with HHO only

3.) Mpg test showing both HHO and EFIE applied

I have also previously warned you not to use the EFIE enhancer without HHO because it can result in higher combustion temperature which can damage your engine. Also, again let me reiterate that in this water gas mpg test, you need to use a scangage so you can have a closer look on what is happening not only in the engine but to the mpg itself. Had he used a scangage on this, he could have determined the best water gas mpg setting right away.

Finally, I would like to thank this individual for showing us his video work so that people like us can have a successful HHO installation and save gas.

Notes:

The water gas mpg test shown here is just a demo and this can change anytime for further updates. Feel free to leave your comments and your HHO concerns with ATS.

Before doing any engine computer setting alteration in your vehicle, please check your local city by-laws or a licensed mechanic regarding this HHO installations. There are states/cities in US that will penalize you once you have altered your emission computer settings. To be safe, once a water gas mpg test is completed, get your exhaust gas analyzed with your local garage to certify your emissions.

Posted on September 20, 2008 - by Richard

HHO Electronic Enhancer…A POTENT HHO Gas Saver Tool!

Talking about HHO Electronic enhancer in my previous blogs, I will explore this subject more today. I am hoping that by discussing this, you will get the significance of one of these gas saver tools.

After combustion happens inside your engine, the air and fuel mixture usually breaks down to different exhaust products. It consist mostly of toxic carbon gases but one of them is oxygen gas or 02. The presence of this 02 gas determines how lean the intake fuel mixture before combustion. This information is needed by your engine computer so it can calculate the best economy so you can save fuel. The leaner the mixture, the engine computer will command the injectors to push more fuel and vice versa. If you don’t use a hho electronic enhancer, the engine computer will push more fuel when the mixture is lean.

To save fuel, the computer has setting of fuel mixture at 14:1 ratio and the oxygen gas setting at the exhaust is set between 0.1v up to 0.9 volt. This setting will be totally screwed up when the HHO gases are introduced. It will force the oxygen setting to a much lower rate (between 0.1v to 0.4v) making the computer compensate by injecting more fuel. This is where a hho electronic enhancer like EFIE adjuster comes in which it automatically adds voltage to the oxygen sensor. The value added is equivalent to the amount created by the HHO gas to make it lean. This prevents your engine into open loop and thus fooling the computer settings.

This is why it is futile to install HHO gas savers in your engine especially if it has an engine computer. Based on most video testings that were done successfully, EFIE adjusters are an effective hho electronic enhancer tool for the HHO generator.

NOTES:

1.) EFIE gas savers can actually run by itself without the HHO generator and save fuel. However, there is the danger of your engine losing power when applied this way. Hesitation and stalling will likely occur followed by increase in engine temperature. When done in a prolong lenght of time, engine damage can also occur. You can see it HERE in this the HHO electronic enhancer video.

2.) Still others have tried by doing away with HHO electronic enhancer (EFIE) by wrapping the oxygen sensor with aluminum foil. The foil itself shields the exhaust heat again trying to fool the engine computer into calculating a RICH fuel condition.

Finally, if you have multiple oxygen sensors, always connect the ones in your exhaust manifolds BEFORE the catalytic converters (CAT). The ones AFTER the CAT are used to monitor the CAT efficiency. And if you have multiple oxygen sensor wiring connections, contact your vendor for the right wire or ATS can do this for you. To save fuel, this is the correct way to set up your HHO system.

Posted on September 19, 2008 - by Richard

HHO fuel savings that reaches 37% MPG increase!

Another HHO fuel savings device is shown here to prove to you that some people are having success in HHO generators. Reading on his description, he used 2 HHO generators connected in series to produced the best rate of hydrogen gas flow. As I have described to you in my earlier blogs, heat is a by product of HHO generators. This heat happens when the HHO generator itself is not big enough to produce the hydrogen gas. When this happens, the generator housing will get hot in the process that sometimes will melt the electrical connections.

Some people will try to fix this by adding more electrolyte catalyst to speed up the HHO gas production. Still others can avoid heat by increasing the surface areas in the HHO generator electrolyte plates or coils. Lately, a multiple generator housings are used instead to achieve this. And from the result of the tests, it seems that the HHO gas production is increase effectively without the heat. Also, the added benefit is lower amperage rating when adjusting the current rate using the PWM adjuster which assures the HHO fuel savings.

In this case, I am not sure if he used a PWM adjuster but he did use the MASS or MAF sensor adjuster. If you remember, this device is use to control the engine air volume in setting the fuel mixture. From the video shown, he achieved a 37% increase in HHO fuel savings. I hope his findings can be verified but given he has no scangage and oxygen EFIE adjuster, there are so much room for improvement.

Here again is the HHO fuel savings test video

One more thing I want to caution you when installing HHO fuel savers: keep a closer look at your engine cooling system. When you realize that adding hydrogen gas makes your fuel mixture lean, there is no question it will add more heat to your engine. To fight that, you have to make sure the engine cooling system is in top shape. An adequate size radiator with good flow will do that and if the cooling fans are electric, make sure that they work properly.

To save fuel, it is not only important to increase the HHO fuel savings but making sure your engine can handle it. ATS can give you recommendations on the safe way to install these fuel savers so you can do it successfully. HHO fuel savers can help you save fuel but only if you do it right

Posted on September 18, 2008 - by Richard

Increase in Gas Mileage in HHO has its Dangers!

This increase in gas mileage in HHO system was posted in Utube more than a week ago. The conversion was done on a 2006 Dodge Ram which has a rated mpg of 12-19 mpg from the manufacturer. According to him, he never went to 17 mpg since he owned the truck and this was the reason he added a HHO gas generator to the engine.

The increase in gas mileage was accomplished using a HHO generator consisting of a HHO fuel cell with an oxygen computer enhancer or EFIE. I saw all of his test previously but it was incomplete until last week. I am posting this so you will know the significance of his work:

EFIE will lean out the fuel mixture on its own even without using the HHO generator. Please take this seriously because if you do it without monitoring with a scangage, there is the danger of having a too lean fuel mixture and can raise the combustion temperature and damage the engine.

Here are some bad side effects of just using EFIE without the HHO generator:

1.) Lost of power which can be felt thru engine hesitation and cutting out at stop lights.
2.) Increase in engine temperature due to lean condition which will cause pinging or premature detonation and subsequent melting of spark plug tips and piston tops. If this happens to you then your engine is toast!

Prevention:

Always use the HHO gas from the HHO fuel cell when using the EFIE device. At the same time, monitor the scangage for signs of increase engine temperature and performance. The hydrogen gas when introduce will make up for the lean condition and give the engine power. You can also monitor the engine temperature using your dash gage.

The question now is: What is the SAFE way to get an increase in gas mileage?

Using your scangage, always set the HHO gas production to the lowest amount using the PWM adjuster. Most tests I have seen is set under 20 amp maximum setting. But test it at a small increment until you get the best increase in gas mileage without harming the engine. This can be done by watching the engine temperature always. I would also remove the spark plug frequently because that will be the first indicator if the engine mixture becomes too lean. I would start by checking the spark plugs (one spark plug will do) every time the HHO system is used then gradually increasing it every other day up to once a week. But I will never take it for a long continuous drive for more than I hour without checking the spark plugs. If it shows that driving it for over 1 hour is safe, then I would check it again after 4 hours until I am satisfied. I cannot over emphasize this because I have seen a lot of damaged engines when the fuel engine mixture is too lean.

Note when testing the increase in gas mileage:

When propane or LPG conversion was first introduced in in early 80’s in Calgary, lots of engines blew up because the fuel setting was too lean. This is how I learned first hand that getting an increase in gas mileage does not mean anything until you set the fuel mixture properly. This can be done and all you do is test it gradually as I have outlined here.

Shown is the actual mpg video test which shows a gain of over 40% increase gas mileage! CLICK HERE

Again, this test shows that EFIE plus HHO generator will give you an increase in gas mileage. However, I wonder what would have happened if he added PWM, scan gage and MAP/MASS sensor adjuster? In the end, I will be happy with this test as long as he monitors his engine temperature and spark plugs. Of course if you do this test yourself, you know what to do after reading all my post about HHO testing.

Notes:

Instructions given here about increase in gas mileage by ATS are given at your own risk and could be changed anytime. Should you have any additional issues or question, feel free to add it on the comment section below.

Before using “increase in gas mileage” tips, please consult your local city bylaws regarding smog test and vehicle engine computer alteration before doing modification to your engine computer connections.

Posted on September 17, 2008 - by Richard

HHO Performance Test Requirement!

The HHO performance test needed during hydrogen generator conversion is to use a scan gauge. If you remember in my earlier blog where I showed you a laptop being used as an engine scanner, here I will show you a cheaper alternative. This is a better procedure in monitoring your engine computer management performance. In simple terms, it gives you the engine fuel mixture status like if it is in open or close loop. This is crucial when feeding the hydrogen gas to your engine intake so that a proper balance is reached between HHO gas production and combustion without getting the fuel too lean. The same can be attained if you install a scan gauge.

This hho performance gadget is actually better because:

1.) It is compact, rough and sturdy construction. Also, it can be installed in your dash with the maximum visibility. This becomes particularly important when monitoring the readings and you want to change the settings quickly with a flick of a switch.

2.) Aside from showing engine hho performance readings, it gives you stats such as vehicle MPG, engine rpm, fuel consumption in GPH (gallons per hour) , HHO production rate, open and close loop status…etc. And all of these can be displayed by switching a user friendly switches for reset and viewing the appropriate readings you need.

3.) To do this hho performance test, ask for SCANGAGE II and you can buy it online by searching it in Google, Ebay, Amazon or even Utube. Make sure to specify all the reading you want but the ones above are the very basic specs since it is always being updated all the time. In case you forget, always include the HHO flow rate, open/close loop, vehicle mpg and especially the vehicle gph (gallons per hour) so you can determine the increase in gas mileage.

Installation is usually straight forward which comes with instructions when you buy the hydrogen gas saver kit. You can also contact or get assistance from a licensed mechanic to show you the proper wiring diagram and connections for your specific engine computer.

Shown on this video is a quick installation guide for this hho performance test SCAN GAGE II. In this demo video, an extension wiring harness connection is shown being assembled for a pick up truck. He also mentioned where you can buy the tools and supplies so you can install this hydrogen gas saver kit yourself. For your safety, always ask a mechanic to help you install this. ATS also provides this assistance so you can protect your vehicle.

Notes:

Instructions given here about hho performance test by ATS are given at your own risk and could be changed anytime. Should you have any additional issues or question, feel free to add it on the comment section below.

Before using HHO performance test tips, please consult your local city bylaws regarding smog test and vehicle engine computer alteration before doing modification to your engine computer connections.

Posted on September 17, 2008 - by Richard

HHO MPG Test For You!

This hho mpg test was done about 6 weeks ago on a 2003 Ford Truck with fuel injected motor. Unlike the 2 previous HHO generator tests I showed earlier, this set up is completely different when using the computer electronic enhancer. This gives you flexibility when deciding on what is the best HHO design for your vehicle. Remember: always try one electronic computer gadget at a time until you get the desired hho mpg savings.

This HHO generator kit consists of:

1.) Two HHO generator kits with a bubbler.

2.) PWM HHO flow rate adjuster. As I have told you earlier on my previous blogs, you can modify the current rate to the HHO generator to control the HHO gas production. As per recommendation, he set the current rate under 20 amp.

3.) EFIE computer enhancer to modify the computer signal to the oxygen sensor so that it will show a close loop all the time (this means “no check engine light”).

As per this hho mpg test results, he gained a 29% fuel mpg increase in city driving which could be more if done on the highway driving instead. Again, since this person is a vendor, I would give some reservations to his claims until some further test from non-vendor people. However, there is a good probability of increasing his fuel mpg savings if he added these features:

1.) Scan gauge so he can set the best engine computer oxygen signal while driving. There is a possibility that since he did not install one, there might be some room to lean out the fuel mixture. He can also increase the HHO flow rate by increasing the PWM settings without overheating the HHO generator. In his set up, he basically used the PWM and road test to get the best results.

2.) As he claimed on his hho mpg test, there is also a chance of increasing the computer MASS sensor signal settings to add another 3-4 extra mpg fuel savings (he can also set this up using a scan gage if you read the previous 2 blogs). Those blogs, a MAP/MASS adjuster was added to accomplish this function.

Shown HERE is his Utube HHO mpg test

Feel free to contact him to check this video and ATS will be glad to assist you should you try to install a HHO gas generator for your car or truck. You can also get a FREE info complete with videos and step by step instructions on how to build a basic HHO gen kit if you join ATS mailing list.

Notes:

Instructions given here about hho mpg test by ATS are given at your own risk and could be changed anytime. Should you have any additional issues or question, feel free to add it on the comment section below.

Before using HHO mpg test tips, please consult your local city bylaws regarding smog test and vehicle engine computer alteration before doing modification to your engine computer connections.

Posted on September 17, 2008 - by Richard

HHO Conversion 2nd Success Story!

Here is a hho conversion success story of HHO gas generator system. This was done about a 1.5 months ago as per Utube but I need you to look closely on what the person did to make it work:

1.) He used a one knob MAP sensor adjuster to counteract the fuel mixture leaning effect of the HHO gas introduced in your engine.

2.) Again a scan gage (engine computer fooling tool) is used to monitor the engine performance including to show the vehicles mpg, computer close loop operation and fuel used in gallons per hour.

These two powerful HHO conversion tools when used with the HHO gas generator was able to give him roughly an additional 40-45 percent increase in fuel improvement.

As per this HHO conversion demo, no other computer electronic gadget was used to control the engine computer of this 1999 Toyota Sienna. You can also use this approach if you want to economize on your HHO gas generator building expenses. To protect your vehicle engine and your investment, always ask the assistance of a certified mechanic to help you. This is especially true if the MAP/MASS sensor will not work for your kind of engine. There are vehicles where where you also need to modify the oxygen sensor and air intake temperature (AIT) sensor for the HHO gas generator to work.

Here again is the video to show you the HHO conversion demo

Looking at this video, you have to give allowance in case the claims is exaggerated since the person is also trying to sell the MAP sensor adjuster. But at this very moment, there are now a few HHO gas generator vendors who will guaranty an increase of 20% fuel savings or your money back contact ATS for more details. Also, I believe the mpg results above can still be improved if he used a PWM and the EFIE computer enhancer.

Final NOTES:

This success story is meant to boost your imagination and give you information on important progress of HHO conversion system. Whether the HHO gas generator works for your vehicle or not, you have to study and learn this system before trying it for your car or truck. If it helps you, you can get hold of these people at Utube to prove this video actually occurred. In you want to start converting your vehicle to HHO gas car, please join ATS mailing list and get FREE tips from ATS so you can install it safely.

Instructions given here about HHO conversion by ATS are given at your own risk and could be changed anytime. Should you have any additional issues or question, feel free to add it on the comment section below.

Before using HHO conversion tips, please consult your local city bylaws regarding smog test and vehicle engine computer alteration before doing modification to your engine computer connections.