Archive for February, 2009
Posted on February 16, 2009 - by Richard
Gas Saving Tips Video So You Can Save Gas
This gas saving tips video is what I saw the other night in Utube which showed a basic hho generator setup. It only has a scan gage to monitor the mileage mpg gain and has no efie or map/mass sensor adjusters. Although this is a wet type hho generator system, I was surprised about his claim of getting almost 50% mileage increase.
His set up consisted of the following:
One high production hho cell which produce under 60 liters per hour (this is wet type and the hho plates are immersed in electrolyte fluids).
An intake flash arrestor plastic container to separate hho from moisture (notice the lower return hose at the bottom shown in the picture on top)
An electrical circuit relay and emergency cut off switch in case the hho components are damaged unexpectedly.
Looking at the video, he might have used a pwm device to control his hho output but it is really hard to see.
This gas saving tips video was recorded in Utube on Jan.02.2009 but the actual video shows it was done sometime in early fall last year. This set up looks promising considering it was installed on a big Ford (Expedition) SUV gas guzzler with a V8 4.6L engine. Please CLICK HERE to see the video and watch for yourself.
Based on this gas saving tips video, there is much room for improvement because of his using the scan gage. He can always increase the hho gas by monitoring the gage until it goes to open loop. He can also cheat the engine computer readings by adding the efei or the mass sensor adjusters. He just have to do it one adjuster at a time until he can balance the hho production and the correct hho temperature.
As always, it is a wise practice to check the spark plugs to check the actual condition of the engine in case the combustion temperature goes overboard (and this can be monitored also by the scan gage while he is driving the vehicle).
Another hho pioneering guy here showing us his video on how to save on gas and I hope he is successful. Feel free to leave your comments below if you have any hho generator building question.
Thanks,
Richard
Posted on February 12, 2009 - by Richard
HHO Generators 2009 Set Up
The hho generators set up for 2009 is really amazing. Besides having a dry type hho gas cell which is easy to install, there are less parts to worry about. In the 2008 version, there was a need to use a circulating pump to boost the flow of hydrogen gas. Now you don’t need that because the bubbler being used is placed on top of these hho generators. Collection of hydrogen gas is done by gravity feed and this is economical and easy to service.
For optimum hho gas production, a pulse width modulator (pwm) is connected to the electrolyte power supply and hho cell circuit. This makes controlling the amount of hho gas manageable which is set not higher than 12 liters per minute (this is a departure on last year’s method which goes up to 20 amp). This method help restricts high current draw and prevents less heat which is also good for your alternator.
HHO generators have the following kit:
a relay- fuse combo so you can shut off the hho generator when you turn off the ignition switch and protect the hho circuit.
A cylindrical plastic vaporizer unit to serve as a blow back arrestor to prevent engine intake flashback from the throttle body that can damage your bubbler housing and dry cell hho hoses.
A cooling fan to cool your pwm housing when ampere reading starts to creep up.
A map/mass sensor enhancer to control your map/mass sensor signals to the engine computer (ecm).
A EFIE adjuster to control your oxygen signals to the ecm
A scan gage tool to monitor your mileage gain, engine fault codes check ups and for hho gas control monitoring purposes.
Not all of these kits above will be required, the older your engine, you might just need the pwm, dry cell generator, bubbler and electrical switches. But if you have a late model fuel injected vehicle then you might need all these gadgets listed above.
HHO generators TIP:
Before installing your hho generators, install a scan gage and record your vehicles mpg for at least a few days. This way, after you got the hho generator installed, you can measure the difference and tweak it later by:
Making proper PWM adjustments or adding more engine computer circuit manipulators such as EFIE or MAP/MASS enhancers.
Please leave your comments below.
Richard
Posted on February 6, 2009 - by Richard
HHO Generators That Works!
These new hho generators that produced an amazing 52 mpg on a 2007 4 cyl SUV are a complete departure from the previous hho generator design from last year. When I ordered my own kit last September 2008, I was really frustrated in finding the extra space needed for the gas generator on my 2004 Ford FreeStar. The main generator housing was almost 2.5 inches in diameter and almost 12 inches long. This new rig is different: because all you need in hydrogen is 1 liter per minute, it allows them to make it compact. Looking at it on picture on the left showed in their website, it only 4 by 4 square inches! Anyone can almost fit this rig anywhere at the buttom of the engine by the frame. HHO GENERATORS THAT USED DRY CELL! The old style hho generators having plates of the 2008s were submerged in electrolyte fluid which can cause a lot of maintenance problems. The corrosive nature of oxygen-hydrogen gases produced by the hho generator make keeping the plate electrodes and the housing clean. Within a month after running this wet unit, most hho installers reported seeing brownish discoloration inside the housing. It has to be flushed to remove the build up of this dirt. On severe occasion, the whole assembly has to be dis-assembled to make a complete clean up. Another dis-advantage I observed was the deterioration of the generator wire terminals. Exposed to strong chemical oxidation, it corrodes the connections and sometimes melt. The melting really got worst when the hho generation rate is out of balance and generated a lot of heat. And since this new “dry type” design is more compact, it can be easily mounted without doing any major engine modification. For maintenance, the whole system can be drained and flushed by removing 1-2 hose connections which can be done quickly. These two factors alone make these new hho generators a better choice but because their less physical exposure to hho gas. Also, this dry cell HHO generator is applicable to small fuel injected engines such as 4 or 6 cylinders or any v8 engines under 5.7 liters. NOTE: I cannot post yet the name of the vendor until I have tested these HHO generators with dry cell myself. Thanks! Richard Recommend HHO Products
Posted on February 5, 2009 - by Richard
These HHO Generators 2009 Tips!
Rejoice my friends! These tips for hho generators are really working is the best news in 2009. HHO generators really work to save you gas but you have to know exactly what specific hho generator kit to use. Shown here is the result of my research and here are some startling evidence.
The engine is small 4 cylinder and late 2007 model. These hho generators were installed in a garage that sells and service automotive and diesel engines for the last 30-40 years in USA. This is not a novice or some do it your selfer who does not have a clue how engine computer works! These people are professionals and uses dynamometers and engine scopes so they do these engine jobs everyday.
I found these hho generators have unique saver device which found after December 2008. After reading their materials and downloading the instructions that came from certified mechanics, I can tell you I am sold! I got a new lease of life on this hho generators applications of fuel supplements!
These hho generators work because their set up is simple. When these hho generators are tested, gas MPG gains are assured between 15% to 50% increase depending on how it is set up. No one generator kit that fits all concept. It depends on how your engine computer is set up but this is what I have learned so far:
These HHO generators actual output production is not important. Last year, most of the known “hho experts” said that the bigger the better. But the as per these guys, all you need for engines smaller than V8 or 5.7 liters is 1 liter per minute (lpm) of hho gas production. That’s it! All you need really is to have a balance to counter what the engine computer is doing against the HHO gas generation. Once you have the right hho production and the right balance, you got it made!
But how do I prove that it won’t wreck the engine because of the engine heat produced by hho gas? “Simple” according to these guys…if you got the right hho gas production and correct accessories for the engine computer, hho gas cools down the engine and steam cleaned the inside of your engine combustion parts. It eliminates the destructive carbon residues that actually kills your engine everyday. Take a close look at the picture shown here and after readings lots of people like vehicle owners, big diesel truck fleet managers who swear that this hho generator really works, I cannot say anything but look closer.
On my next blog, I will explain to you more on these hho generators new developments that very few people know. Their website is conspicuously not very popular in the Internet unless you really research and understand what they are talking about.
Thanks!
Richard
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Posted on February 4, 2009 - by Richard
Another HHO Tips for Fuel Gas Savers!
These hho tips refer to the Utube video I saw the other day showing a hho gas generator installed on a truck or minivan. It showed the hho generator showing 3 hydrogen cells connected together. The question is why?
Some vehicle engines especially those with sizes ranging from 5.0L to 6.0L would need a bigger output of hho gas. With a typical stand alone generator, the number of plates used for electrolysis is pretty limited. So when it is operating, problems like generator overheating and insufficient hho gas flow can occur. To resolve this, here is are a few hho tips being done by some vendors:
Adding a hho gas cooler to the system
Using a condenser coil in front of your radiator where the hho gas is made to circulate the hho cell can lower the hho gas generator temperature. And from what I have seen from a hho vendor, he added a circulating pump to increase the flow rate. This helps resolve both issues of overheating and insufficient hho gas production.
With this feature, it can avoid installation multiple hho cell installation which requires a bigger space in your engine compartment. With this hho tip, there is a downside: the added cost of the condenser coil and circulating pump can easily jack up your over-all hho investment roughly by 30%-40%. However, if you look at a more stable hho production without worrying about overheating, this might be a good route to go.
Another hho tips success story:
Shown in this utube video is hho gas generator using 3 hydrogen cells. As per the person who made the video, he gained 34% mpg gas savings. Please treat this caution because it does not show exactly what electronic extensions were used like PWM, EFIE or MAP enhancer. Should you need any assistance on this, please contact ATS or leave a message in my comment below.
Please check with your local city by-laws before performing any hho conversion in your vehicle. Please check ATS recommended strategies in our previous blogs.






