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Posted on July 20, 2009 - by Richard
HHO Computer
This HHO computer is a follow up from my last 2 posts. As I have mentioned already, hho cell gas production can be controlled using a computer which is attached with your engine computer. I have a feeling that most hho enthusiasts will be thrilled by this new development. However, let me caution everybody that as a mechanic, I have not seen it worked yet because I am still waiting for the results of the latest installation pioneered by 2 hho technological companies. Once I have seen their data that they have ironed out the minor bugs, I will announce it here in my blog.
We need this HHO computer to automatically monitor the hho gas production when it is introduced in the engine combustion chamber. Based on what I have seen so far on the latest installation, it looks promising especially when the oxyhydrogen gases can be controlled at different engine rpm. I was hoping that in the final analysis, this HHO computer will prevent damage in your engine.
NOTES:
I came across some hho videos last week accusing hho vendors as scammers which I found counter productive. Any potential buyers of HHO should look at the fact: although there are lots of talks about HHO scams, there is no harm in reading about this HHO experiment. All you have to do is get as much information as you can before investing on such product and make sure you have a licensed mechanic to help you install it. You should not put it in your engine if the vendor will not guaranty it and your mechanic has to agree that it will work. Most problem here is coming from folks who are to eager to install it without really studying the over-all effect of HHO system. And when you consider also the hype being used to sell this product, it is no wonder that the suspicion of scam is always coming out.
If you notice also, this HHO computer is another tool that worth waiting for to realize the full potential of having a workable HHO system. But unless I see the actual proven results in saving gas and emission, this blog will not be used to propagate a HHO system that does not work.
Thanks,
Richard
Feel free to leave your comments below if you have any concerns about HHO computer system.
Posted on July 12, 2009 - by Richard
HHO Control
This is part 2 HHO control blog for those gas saving driver enthusiasts.
When automatic HHO control was introduced early last year by Hydroxy Technologies Corporation (HTC), it caught everybody by surprise including myself. Up to that time a year ago, almost everybody was using a remote scan gauge and manually adjusting the sensor enhancer settings using their sensor enhancer adjusting knobs. This means, if you happened to forget to set your PMW properly and it happens that your HHO cell is overheating then you can say goodbye to your HHO cell. The same case can occur if the oxygen sensor is allowed to run in an open loop because the HHO EFIE setting is not set up accurately. This is true if the fuel mixture is lean and there is a big chance that you might damage your engine.
The main advantage of this automatic HHO control is the ability of the HHO cell to produce the right amount of oxyhydrogen gases for your engine. This is done by automatically adjusting all the sensor parameters at HHO cell start ups and set according to the vehicle driving conditions. Example: if the engine is idling, the HHO cell production is not needed and the PWM is set to limit hho gas entry to the combustion chamber. On the other hand, if the engine is revving high and running under load, the HHO cell gas production must be set high by the PWM device at a higher rate.
How does automatic HHO control works?
Instead of using a scan gage to monitor engine performance, a remote engine controller is mounted in your dash for you to monitor. Using transistors and electronic circuit board, all the sensor enhancer devices are hooked up into this controller including the engine rpm, hho unit temperature and OBD2 engine configuration of the ecm thru a wiring harness plugin. Using this system, one can set the HHO enhancer parameter reading/s at one sitting and there is no need to do any adjustment anymore unless the controller gives a signal for you to do otherwise. This means, a trouble free operation that will not damaged your engine including less HHO cell maintenance.
Note:
Sine the HHO cell hho gas production is controlled, less contaminants are produced inside the hho cell unit.
This HHO control device is called Vehicle Management Unit or VMU by HTC and shown below is a UTube video on how it works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvIUNE87PCI&feature=channel_page
Feel free to ask ATS for wiring diagram for your engine if it is applicable to use this HHO control system for your vehicle.
Thanks!
Richard
Posted on July 12, 2009 - by Richard
HHO Control To Save Gas
This HHO Control blog is dedicated for those adventurous HHO gas pioneers, HHO diys who advocate saving engine fuel using HHO concept and help cut vehicle emission.
The HHO control came about as soon as HHO cell started producing oxyhydrogen gas on demand to interract with the vehicle’s engine control module (ECM) or your engine computer. If you recall last year, when the HHO cell introduced these gases into your combustion chamber; the engine computer will react to the leaning effect of the hho gas to your engine fuel mixture. At the same time, it has to contend also to the higher temperature levels brought about by the oxygenhydrogen gases to both the HHO cell unit and your engine combustion chamber.
Without HHO control, higher HHO cell temperature results in early deterioration of the HHO cell plate wiring terminals and discoloration of the HHO cell fluids. This was corrected by using the PMW device to control the cell amperage and converting it to “dry type cell” system which allowed more metal plates without raising the cell housing temperature. A user friendly hho cell additive like soda was added to the” wet type” HHO cell fluid to improve HHO cell production and improve maintenance since it minimizes the cleaning time to flush dirty contaminants inside the HHO cell. These strategies have allowed a much lower operating temperature for the HHO cell and at the same time, allowed a higher HHO cell flow rate production.
The same technique was also used to control the HHO gases in the combustion chamber by using the following engine sensor enhancement devices which you probably know are already being used extensively:
EFIE enhancer which controls the oxygen gas content of the combustion gas to prevent the engine ecm from going open loop when the fuel mixture becomes lean as a result of hho gas injection.
Map/Maf sensor enhancer which control the sensor frequency output and map sensor load voltage at a level tolerable to the ecm management specs again to prevent the fuel mixture control system into going open loop.
Finally, a scan gauge is used to monitor the engine performance when oxy hydrogen gases are introduced. However, HHO control is done by adjusting the PWM, EFIE and MAP/MAF settings using the adjuster knobs that came with these enhancement devices.
As you will see in my next blog, there is no automatic HHO control in this above method. A better electronic controller is needed so that the HHO cell gas production is optimized based on the existing condition of the vehicle engine.
Thanks,
Richard
Posted on July 10, 2009 - by Richard
L2 Hybrids Conversion
Using the L2 hybrids conversion is the latest technique for generating hho in demand for your vehicle to save gas.
It has been a while since I wrote about installing hho generator in vehicles to save fuel. The landscape for installing hho generator has been improved again in early 2009 when L2 HYBRIDS company from California sold 2 hho kits to a public works department in Beloit City, Wisconsin. This happened after the department installed a wet cell hydrogen units from Oklahoma-based Protium Fuel Systems on three department vehicles which did not work properly.
With the newer dry cell system, a plastic reservoir is filled with distilled water. The water circulates through the booster, where an electric current breaks it into hydrogen and oxygen gas. The hydrogen gas then is injected into the engine to help gasoline burn more efficiently. Initial results were promising although some bugs still need sorting out.
Since gasoline engines are only about 20 percent efficient, it means the engine is burning only 1/5 of the gasoline injected into the vehicle and the rest leaves as carbon exhaust through the tailpipe. The introduction of hydrogen gas makes engines burn 100 percent efficient. Hydrogen is a volatile gas, and when it’s added to the combustion cycle, it induces everything to burn. That means more savings per gallon and fewer carbon emissions.
The L2 hybrid conversion is a dry cell generator which more metal plates to be used to generate hho gas without causing heat. Furthermore, since it is dry type, less corrosion build up is gained inside the hho generator housing itself.
Shown below is the video showing the Beloit public works department pioneering the hho fuel saving campaign:
http://www.youtube.com/user/leolebel#play/uploads/0/wE-r3-TBnL8
If the L2 Hybrids company kit works, it would save the public work department thousands of dollars in fuel cost which totals almost 3 quarter million dollars a year. This is a welcome news to hho installer enthusiast who can really improve their success odds instead of buying those expensive hybrid vehicles. I will examine this newest hho on demand generator some more and hope to give you more updates later on.
Thanks,
Richard
Posted on February 16, 2009 - by Richard
Gas Saving Tips Video So You Can Save Gas
This gas saving tips video is what I saw the other night in Utube which showed a basic hho generator setup. It only has a scan gage to monitor the mileage mpg gain and has no efie or map/mass sensor adjusters. Although this is a wet type hho generator system, I was surprised about his claim of getting almost 50% mileage increase.
His set up consisted of the following:
One high production hho cell which produce under 60 liters per hour (this is wet type and the hho plates are immersed in electrolyte fluids).
An intake flash arrestor plastic container to separate hho from moisture (notice the lower return hose at the bottom shown in the picture on top)
An electrical circuit relay and emergency cut off switch in case the hho components are damaged unexpectedly.
Looking at the video, he might have used a pwm device to control his hho output but it is really hard to see.
This gas saving tips video was recorded in Utube on Jan.02.2009 but the actual video shows it was done sometime in early fall last year. This set up looks promising considering it was installed on a big Ford (Expedition) SUV gas guzzler with a V8 4.6L engine. Please CLICK HERE to see the video and watch for yourself.
Based on this gas saving tips video, there is much room for improvement because of his using the scan gage. He can always increase the hho gas by monitoring the gage until it goes to open loop. He can also cheat the engine computer readings by adding the efei or the mass sensor adjusters. He just have to do it one adjuster at a time until he can balance the hho production and the correct hho temperature.
As always, it is a wise practice to check the spark plugs to check the actual condition of the engine in case the combustion temperature goes overboard (and this can be monitored also by the scan gage while he is driving the vehicle).
Another hho pioneering guy here showing us his video on how to save on gas and I hope he is successful. Feel free to leave your comments below if you have any hho generator building question.
Thanks,
Richard
Posted on February 12, 2009 - by Richard
HHO Generator Set Up for 2009 Part 2
The hho generator set up for 2009 is really amazing. Besides having a dry type hho gas cell which is easy to install, there are less parts to worry about. In the 2008 version, there was a need to use a circulating pump to boost the flow of hydrogen gas. Now you don’t need that because the bubbler being used is placed on top of the hho generator cell. Collection of hydrogen gas is done by gravity feed and this is economical and easy to service.
For optimum hho gas production, a pulse width modulator (pwm) is connected to the electrolyte power supply and hho cell circuit. This makes controlling the amount of hho gas manageable which is set not higher than 12 liters per minute (this is a departure on last year’s method which goes up to 20 amp). This method help restricts high current draw and prevents less heat which is also good for your alternator.
Other basic hho generator kit includes:
a relay- fuse combo so you can shut off the hho generator when you turn off the ignition switch and protect the hho circuit.
A cylindrical plastic vaporizer unit to serve as a blow back arrestor to prevent engine intake flashback from the throttle body that can damage your bubbler housing and dry cell hho hoses.
A cooling fan to cool your pwm housing when ampere reading starts to creep up.
A map/mass sensor enhancer to control your map/mass sensor signals to the engine computer (ecm).
A EFIE adjuster to control your oxygen signals to the ecm
A scan gage tool to monitor your mileage gain, engine fault codes check ups and for hho gas control monitoring purposes.
Not all of these kits above will be required, the older your engine, you might just need the pwm, dry cell generator, bubbler and electrical switches. But if you have a late model fuel injected vehicle then you might need all these gadgets listed above.
HHO generator set up TIP:
Before installing your hho generator, install a scan gage and record your vehicles mpg for at least a few days. This way, after you got the hho generator installed, you can measure the difference and tweak it later by:
Making proper PWM adjustments or adding more engine computer circuit manipulators such as EFIE or MAP/MASS enhancers.
Please leave your comments below.
Richard
Posted on February 6, 2009 - by Richard
The HHO Generator Set Up For 2009 That Works!
This new hho generator set up that produced an amazing 52 mpg on a 2007 4 cyl SUV is a complete departure from the previous hho generator design from last year. When I ordered my own kit last September 2008, I was really frustrated in finding the extra space needed for the gas generator on my 2004 Ford FreeStar. The main generator housing was almost 2.5 inches in diameter and almost 12 inches long. This new rig is different: because all you need in hydrogen is 1 liter per minute, it allows them to make it compact. Looking at it on picture on the left showed in their website, it only 4 by 4 square inches! Anyone can almost fit this rig anywhere at the buttom of the engine by the frame.
DRY CELL TYPE HHO GAS GENERATOR is the new way to go!
Old style generator plates of the 2008s were submerged in electrolyte fluid which can cause a lot of maintenance problems.
The corrosive nature of oxygen-hydrogen gases produced by the hho generator make keeping the plate electrodes and the housing clean. Within a month after running this wet unit, most hho installers reported seeing brownish discoloration inside the housing. It has to be flushed to remove the build up of this dirt. On severe occasion, the whole assembly has to be dis-assembled to make a complete clean up.
Another dis-advantage I observed was the deterioration of the generator wire terminals. Exposed to strong chemical oxidation, it corrodes the connections and sometimes melt. The melting really got worst when the hho generation rate is out of balance and generated a lot of heat. And since this new “dry type” design is more compact, it can be easily mounted without doing any major engine modification. For maintenance, the whole system can be drained and flushed by removing 1-2 hose connections which can be done quickly.
These two factors alone make this new hho generator set up the better choice but because there less physical exposure to hho gas. Also, this dry cell HHO generator is applicable to small fuel injected engines such as 4 or 6 cylinders or any v8 engines under 5.7 liters.
NOTE:
I cannot post yet the name of the vendor until I have installed this HHO generator (dry cell) myself.
Thanks!
Richard
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Posted on February 5, 2009 - by Richard
New…Proof That HHO Generator Tips Are Working in 2009!
Rejoice my friends! The proof that hho generator tips are really working is the best news in 2009. HHO generator really works to save you gas but you have to know exactly what hho generator kit to use. Shown here is the result of my research and here are some startling evidence.
The engine is small 4 cylinder and late 2007 model. The hho generator installer is a garage that installs and sells automotive and diesel engines for the last 30-40 years in USA. This is not a novice or some do it your selfer who does not have a clue how engine computer works! These people are professionals and uses dynamometers and engine scopes so they do these engine jobs everyday.
I found this hho saver device by accident after I almost gave up on this hho last December 2008. After reading their materials and downloading the instructions that came from certified mechanics, I can tell you I am sold! I got a new lease of life on this hho generator fuel supplements!
Their hho generator set up is rather simple but it works. The hho generator MPG gains is assured between 15% to 50% increase depending on how it is set up. No one generator kit that fits all concept. It depends on how your engine computer is set up but this is what I have learned so far:
HHO generator output production is not important. Last year, most of the known “hho experts” said that the bigger the better. But the as per these guys, all you need for engines smaller than V8 or 5.7 liters is 1 liter per minute (lpm) of hho gas production. That’s it! All you need really is to have a balance to counter what the engine computer is doing against the HHO gas generation. Once you have the right hho production and the right balance, you got it made!
But how do I prove that it won’t wreck the engine because of the engine heat produced by hho gas? “Simple” according to these guys…if you got the right hho gas production and correct accessories for the engine computer, hho gas cools down the engine and steam cleaned the inside of your engine combustion parts. It eliminates the destructive carbon residues that actually kills your engine everyday. Take a close look at the picture shown here and after readings lots of people like vehicle owners, big diesel truck fleet managers who swear that this hho generator really works, I cannot say anything but look closer.
On my next blog, I will explain to you more on this hho generator tips that very few people knows about. Their website is conspicuously not very popular in the Internet unless you really research and understand what they are talking about.
Thanks!
Richard
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Posted on February 4, 2009 - by Richard
Another HHO Tips for Fuel Gas Savers!
These hho tips refer to the Utube video I saw the other day showing a hho gas generator installed on a truck or minivan. It showed the hho generator showing 3 hydrogen cells connected together. The question is why?
Some vehicle engines especially those with sizes ranging from 5.0L to 6.0L would need a bigger output of hho gas. With a typical stand alone generator, the number of plates used for electrolysis is pretty limited. So when it is operating, problems like generator overheating and insufficient hho gas flow can occur. To resolve this, here is are a few hho tips being done by some vendors:
Adding a hho gas cooler to the system
Using a condenser coil infront of your radiator where the hho gas is made to circulate the hho cell can lower the hho gas generator temperature. And from what I have seen from a hho vendor, he added a circulating pump to increase the flow rate. This helps resolve both issues of overheating and insufficient hho gas production.
With this feature, it can avoid installation multiple hho cell installation which requires a bigger space in your engine compartment. With this hho tip, there is a downside: the added cost of the condenser coil and circulating pump can easily jack up your over-all hho investment roughly by 30%-40%. However, if you look at a more stable hho production without worrying about overheating, this might be a good route to go.
Another hho tips success story:
Shown in this utube video is hho gas generator using 3 hydrogen cells. As per the person who made the video, he gained 34% mpg gas savings. Please treat this caution because it does not show exactly what electronic extensions were used like PWM, EFIE or MAP enhancer. Should you need any assistance on this, please contact ATS or leave a message in my comment below.
Please check with your local city by-laws before performing any hho conversion in your vehicle. Please check ATS recommended strategies in our previous blogs.
Posted on January 18, 2009 - by Richard
To Fix Oxygen Sensor Circuit Can Help You Save Gas
Understanding the methods to fix oxygen sensor comes handy when tuning up oxygen sensor circuits. Since oxygen sensor mainly control the fuel mixture of the engine by measuring the oxygen content parameter for the engine computer (ecm), it is necessary for us to understand how this sensor circuits works.
In the early 1980s when oxygen sensor was first introduced, it has only one signal wire. This sensitive wire was designed so that it only takes low voltage signal under 1 volt. This crude design has a major flaw; it takes too much time for the sensor to give signal to the engine computer.
It is the computer’s job to regulate the fuel mixture after the sensor warms up which sometimes takes about 10-15 minutes. This time delay can gets worse when the weather gets cold and would dump a lot of raw fuel to the catalytic converter (CAT). This leads to premature CAT failure and high fuel consumption.
Since 1994-2006, the oxygen sensor has been upgraded to resolve this problem:
1.) The introduction of the heating circuit within the sensor to make it warm faster
In the old single wire design, the sensor needs time to warm up before it can give voltage signals to the ecm (called open loop) this creates not only waste in fuel efficiency but could cause early downgrading of the catalytic converter which it needs to protect. To resolve this, two oxygen sensors were added before and after the catalytic converter which included a heating element on each of them.
Looking at the sensor wiring connection, it has 3-4 wires on each sensor in which the ecm can gets 1-2 variable voltage signal wires and an extra wire for the heater element. This resulted in closer monitoring of fuel because the sensor is heated almost right away and better reaction times from the ecm regardless of weather conditions.
2.) The introduction of zircona or the wide band oxygen sensor
This was adopted in 2001-2006 but only on limited vehicles. An electric and chemical gas pump current was added to the sensor signal circuit which gives a constant voltage feedback. Unlike the earlier types of oxygen sensor where the voltage signal fluctuates between 0.2 to 0.8 volt, this voltage oscillation is eliminated. The ECM pumps current through oxygen sensor (02) signal resistor wire to maintain a certain voltage of 0.45 volt and monitors the current required to maintain that voltage level. Oxygen changes the resistance values in o2 sensor. This process allows faster adjustment of fuel and timing by the ecm at a more rapid rate. Also called UEGO or universal exhaust gas oxygen, it provides quicker response time by the ecm . However, beware when using HHO EFIE adjuster on wide band oxygen sensors because most of them works on short band oxygen sensor only.
These 2 advancements in oxygen sensor designs has lead to improve gas savings because of improved ecm monitoring functionality.
When to fix oxygen sensor circuits:
Common methods to fix oxygen sensor:
1.) Stay away from aftermarket oxygen sensor unless it is made by Bosch.
2.) If you suspect the catalytic converter is plugged, compare 02 voltage readings at idle and wide open throttle (WOT). At WOT, the front and after CAT readings should be the same or slight lower fluctuations after the CAT. Make sure to check with your dealer because CAT is sometimes guaranteed upt0 80k miles.
3.) For HHO generator enthusiast, most EFIE adjuster will not work with wide band oxygen sensor. When acting up, the 02 voltage reading could reach higher than 1 volt. Look closer at the 02 signal variable voltage wire: there is a resistor in series for the wide band oxygen sensor.
Thanks,
Richard
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