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Posted on September 18, 2008 - by Richard

Increase in Gas Mileage in HHO has its Dangers!

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HHO set up This increase in gas mileage in HHO system was posted in Utube more than a week ago. The conversion was done on a 2006 Dodge Ram which has a rated mpg of 12-19 mpg from the manufacturer. According to him, he never went to 17 mpg since he owned the truck and this was the reason he added a HHO gas generator to the engine.

The increase in gas mileage was accomplished using a HHO generator consisting of a HHO fuel cell with an oxygen computer enhancer or EFIE. I saw all of his test previously but it was incomplete until last week. I am posting this so you will know the significance of his work:

EFIE will lean out the fuel mixture on its own even without using the HHO generator. Please take this seriously because if you do it without monitoring with a scangage, there is the danger of having a too lean fuel mixture and can raise the combustion temperature and damage the engine.

Here are some bad side effects of just using EFIE without the HHO generator:

1.) Lost of power which can be felt thru engine hesitation and cutting out at stop lights.
2.) Increase in engine temperature due to lean condition which will cause pinging or premature detonation and subsequent melting of spark plug tips and piston tops. If this happens to you then your engine is toast!

Prevention:

Always use the HHO gas from the HHO fuel cell when using the EFIE device. At the same time, monitor the scangage for signs of increase engine temperature and performance. The hydrogen gas when introduce will make up for the lean condition and give the engine power. You can also monitor the engine temperature using your dash gage.

The question now is: What is the SAFE way to get an increase in gas mileage?

Using your scangage, always set the HHO gas production to the lowest amount using the PWM adjuster. Most tests I have seen is set under 20 amp maximum setting. But test it at a small increment until you get the best increase in gas mileage without harming the engine. This can be done by watching the engine temperature always. I would also remove the spark plug frequently because that will be the first indicator if the engine mixture becomes too lean. I would start by checking the spark plugs (one spark plug will do) every time the HHO system is used then gradually increasing it every other day up to once a week. But I will never take it for a long continuous drive for more than I hour without checking the spark plugs. If it shows that driving it for over 1 hour is safe, then I would check it again after 4 hours until I am satisfied. I cannot over emphasize this because I have seen a lot of damaged engines when the fuel engine mixture is too lean.

Note when testing the increase in gas mileage:

When propane or LPG conversion was first introduced in in early 80’s in Calgary, lots of engines blew up because the fuel setting was too lean. This is how I learned first hand that getting an increase in gas mileage does not mean anything until you set the fuel mixture properly. This can be done and all you do is test it gradually as I have outlined here.

Shown is the actual mpg video test which shows a gain of over 40% increase gas mileage! CLICK HERE

Again, this test shows that EFIE plus HHO generator will give you an increase in gas mileage. However, I wonder what would have happened if he added PWM, scan gage and MAP/MASS sensor adjuster? In the end, I will be happy with this test as long as he monitors his engine temperature and spark plugs. Of course if you do this test yourself, you know what to do after reading all my post about HHO testing.

Notes:

Instructions given here about increase in gas mileage by ATS are given at your own risk and could be changed anytime. Should you have any additional issues or question, feel free to add it on the comment section below.

Before using “increase in gas mileage” tips, please consult your local city bylaws regarding smog test and vehicle engine computer alteration before doing modification to your engine computer connections.


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  • This entry was posted on Thursday, September 18th, 2008 at 3:27 pm and is filed under HHO Gas Tips. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.

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      September 19, 2008

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      kraig said:

      I was interested in HHO and then when I tried to fine someone to back up the product i only found someone who would give 2 week money back guarantee. Looked more into it and found out engine can get dirty and give you more problems. Also hydrogen has a higher explosion rate than fuel. Then at that moment my dad showed me ETHOS FR which gives you better gas mileage and helps environment also, some cases improved 25% using it. go to http://www.getmorempg.info



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      September 19, 2008

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      Richard said:

      Hello Kraig,

      I found a HHO generator 1.5 months ago that would sell you a complete package with 30 days guaranty and would also guarantee a MINIMUM increase in gas mileage of 20%. You can email at jesrtrent@telus.net for more info. However, I am not recommending any product before I have tested them myself. You should hear from this blog when I have done that.

      Thanks for posting your Dad’s gas saving website.



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      September 23, 2008

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      November 15, 2008

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      Aubrey said:

      I have tried several HHO generators myself including the water4gas version I built myself. I got savings from 15% to 30%, testing on my 2006 Dodge Sprinter 2500 cargo van.

      Now I am testing the kit bought from http://www.HydroxyTech.ca - I post all my test results on my website at http://www.AutoFuelSaving.com

      I agree that you should not lean the engine too much and should never lean it without using HHO.



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      March 12, 2010

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      Wolfgang Koster said:

      I tried to take the scientific approach and studied different systems carefully. I finally ended up building a unit of my own which produced about .75 liters of hho/min. Finally I decided on a purchased dry brick cell. The rest of the system I built myself, and bench tested it. Due to installation difficulties with my o2 sensors I did not install an EFIE device. To date, I have NOT seen ANY increase in my in-town or my highway mileage. It seems that without leaning out the gas mixture it is impossible to see any mpg benefits. Anyone out there have any suggestions, pls drop me a note. Vehicle is a 2005 Toyota Sienna.



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      August 23, 2011

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      lukas said:

      Hello im willing to star an adventure with HHO can any one e-mail me with staff i need to make this work. apart off the cell i wil buy it on e-bay . And do i need to do anything with the ecu off the car??
      please help Lukas
      My e-mail is lukas25@aol.pl



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