Posts Tagged ‘EFIE’

Posted on February 4, 2009 - by Richard

Another HHO Tips for Fuel Gas Savers!

These hho tips refer to the Utube video I saw the other day showing a hho gas generator installed on a truck or minivan. It showed the hho generator showing 3 hydrogen cells connected together. The question is why?

Some vehicle engines especially those with sizes ranging from 5.0L to 6.0L would need a bigger output of hho gas. With a typical stand alone generator, the number of plates used for electrolysis is pretty limited. So when it is operating, problems like generator overheating and insufficient hho gas flow can occur. To resolve this, here is are a few hho tips being done by some vendors:

Adding a hho gas cooler to the system

Using a condenser coil in front of your radiator where the hho gas is made to circulate the hho cell can lower the hho gas generator temperature. And from what I have seen from a hho vendor, he added a circulating pump to increase the flow rate. This helps resolve both issues of overheating and insufficient hho gas production.

With this feature, it can avoid installation multiple hho cell installation which requires a bigger space in your engine compartment. With this hho tip, there is a downside: the added cost of the condenser coil and circulating pump can easily jack up your over-all hho investment roughly by 30%-40%. However, if you look at a more stable hho production without worrying about overheating, this might be a good route to go.

Another hho tips success story:

Shown in this utube video is hho gas generator using 3 hydrogen cells. As per the person who made the video, he gained 34% mpg gas savings. Please treat this caution because it does not show exactly what electronic extensions were used like PWM, EFIE or MAP enhancer. Should you need any assistance on this, please contact ATS or leave a message in my comment below.

Please check with your local city by-laws before performing any hho conversion in your vehicle. Please check ATS recommended strategies in our previous blogs.

Posted on September 21, 2008 - by Richard

Water Gas MPG Test Shows 43% Increase!

Another water gas mpg test done in Sept.1.2008 was shown in Utube showing a 2006 Dodge Ram truck gaining incredible gas mileage increase. The HHO generator itself got 22% by itself but when the EFIE oxygen enhancer was added, a further increase was gained for a total of 43%.

Actually, this 2006 Dodge Ram test was shown earlier on my previous blog but this one is more detailed. In this water gas mpg test video three different tests were shown showing the following results:

1.) Basic mpg test showing the mpg without HHO and EFIE to determine the baseline mpg.

2.) Mpg test showing the fuel savings with HHO only

3.) Mpg test showing both HHO and EFIE applied

I have also previously warned you not to use the EFIE enhancer without HHO because it can result in higher combustion temperature which can damage your engine. Also, again let me reiterate that in this water gas mpg test, you need to use a scangage so you can have a closer look on what is happening not only in the engine but to the mpg itself. Had he used a scangage on this, he could have determined the best water gas mpg setting right away.

Finally, I would like to thank this individual for showing us his video work so that people like us can have a successful HHO installation and save gas.

Notes:

The water gas mpg test shown here is just a demo and this can change anytime for further updates. Feel free to leave your comments and your HHO concerns with ATS.

Before doing any engine computer setting alteration in your vehicle, please check your local city by-laws or a licensed mechanic regarding this HHO installations. There are states/cities in US that will penalize you once you have altered your emission computer settings. To be safe, once a water gas mpg test is completed, get your exhaust gas analyzed with your local garage to certify your emissions.

Posted on September 20, 2008 - by Richard

HHO Electronic Enhancer…A POTENT HHO Gas Saver Tool!

Talking about HHO Electronic enhancer in my previous blogs, I will explore this subject more today. I am hoping that by discussing this, you will get the significance of one of these gas saver tools.

After combustion happens inside your engine, the air and fuel mixture usually breaks down to different exhaust products. It consist mostly of toxic carbon gases but one of them is oxygen gas or 02. The presence of this 02 gas determines how lean the intake fuel mixture before combustion. This information is needed by your engine computer so it can calculate the best economy so you can save fuel. The leaner the mixture, the engine computer will command the injectors to push more fuel and vice versa. If you don’t use a hho electronic enhancer, the engine computer will push more fuel when the mixture is lean.

To save fuel, the computer has setting of fuel mixture at 14:1 ratio and the oxygen gas setting at the exhaust is set between 0.1v up to 0.9 volt. This setting will be totally screwed up when the HHO gases are introduced. It will force the oxygen setting to a much lower rate (between 0.1v to 0.4v) making the computer compensate by injecting more fuel. This is where a hho electronic enhancer like EFIE adjuster comes in which it automatically adds voltage to the oxygen sensor. The value added is equivalent to the amount created by the HHO gas to make it lean. This prevents your engine into open loop and thus fooling the computer settings.

This is why it is futile to install HHO gas savers in your engine especially if it has an engine computer. Based on most video testings that were done successfully, EFIE adjusters are an effective hho electronic enhancer tool for the HHO generator.

NOTES:

1.) EFIE gas savers can actually run by itself without the HHO generator and save fuel. However, there is the danger of your engine losing power when applied this way. Hesitation and stalling will likely occur followed by increase in engine temperature. When done in a prolong lenght of time, engine damage can also occur. You can see it HERE in this the HHO electronic enhancer video.

2.) Still others have tried by doing away with HHO electronic enhancer (EFIE) by wrapping the oxygen sensor with aluminum foil. The foil itself shields the exhaust heat again trying to fool the engine computer into calculating a RICH fuel condition.

Finally, if you have multiple oxygen sensors, always connect the ones in your exhaust manifolds BEFORE the catalytic converters (CAT). The ones AFTER the CAT are used to monitor the CAT efficiency. And if you have multiple oxygen sensor wiring connections, contact your vendor for the right wire or ATS can do this for you. To save fuel, this is the correct way to set up your HHO system.

Posted on September 18, 2008 - by Richard

Increase in Gas Mileage in HHO has its Dangers!

This increase in gas mileage in HHO system was posted in Utube more than a week ago. The conversion was done on a 2006 Dodge Ram which has a rated mpg of 12-19 mpg from the manufacturer. According to him, he never went to 17 mpg since he owned the truck and this was the reason he added a HHO gas generator to the engine.

The increase in gas mileage was accomplished using a HHO generator consisting of a HHO fuel cell with an oxygen computer enhancer or EFIE. I saw all of his test previously but it was incomplete until last week. I am posting this so you will know the significance of his work:

EFIE will lean out the fuel mixture on its own even without using the HHO generator. Please take this seriously because if you do it without monitoring with a scangage, there is the danger of having a too lean fuel mixture and can raise the combustion temperature and damage the engine.

Here are some bad side effects of just using EFIE without the HHO generator:

1.) Lost of power which can be felt thru engine hesitation and cutting out at stop lights.
2.) Increase in engine temperature due to lean condition which will cause pinging or premature detonation and subsequent melting of spark plug tips and piston tops. If this happens to you then your engine is toast!

Prevention:

Always use the HHO gas from the HHO fuel cell when using the EFIE device. At the same time, monitor the scangage for signs of increase engine temperature and performance. The hydrogen gas when introduce will make up for the lean condition and give the engine power. You can also monitor the engine temperature using your dash gage.

The question now is: What is the SAFE way to get an increase in gas mileage?

Using your scangage, always set the HHO gas production to the lowest amount using the PWM adjuster. Most tests I have seen is set under 20 amp maximum setting. But test it at a small increment until you get the best increase in gas mileage without harming the engine. This can be done by watching the engine temperature always. I would also remove the spark plug frequently because that will be the first indicator if the engine mixture becomes too lean. I would start by checking the spark plugs (one spark plug will do) every time the HHO system is used then gradually increasing it every other day up to once a week. But I will never take it for a long continuous drive for more than I hour without checking the spark plugs. If it shows that driving it for over 1 hour is safe, then I would check it again after 4 hours until I am satisfied. I cannot over emphasize this because I have seen a lot of damaged engines when the fuel engine mixture is too lean.

Note when testing the increase in gas mileage:

When propane or LPG conversion was first introduced in in early 80’s in Calgary, lots of engines blew up because the fuel setting was too lean. This is how I learned first hand that getting an increase in gas mileage does not mean anything until you set the fuel mixture properly. This can be done and all you do is test it gradually as I have outlined here.

Shown is the actual mpg video test which shows a gain of over 40% increase gas mileage! CLICK HERE

Again, this test shows that EFIE plus HHO generator will give you an increase in gas mileage. However, I wonder what would have happened if he added PWM, scan gage and MAP/MASS sensor adjuster? In the end, I will be happy with this test as long as he monitors his engine temperature and spark plugs. Of course if you do this test yourself, you know what to do after reading all my post about HHO testing.

Notes:

Instructions given here about increase in gas mileage by ATS are given at your own risk and could be changed anytime. Should you have any additional issues or question, feel free to add it on the comment section below.

Before using “increase in gas mileage” tips, please consult your local city bylaws regarding smog test and vehicle engine computer alteration before doing modification to your engine computer connections.