Posts Tagged ‘HHO cell’

Posted on July 20, 2009 - by Richard

HHO Computer

This HHO computer is a follow up from my last 2 posts. As I have mentioned already, hho cell gas production can be controlled using a computer which is attached with your engine computer. I have a feeling that most hho enthusiasts will be thrilled by this new development. However, let me caution everybody that as a mechanic, I have not seen it worked yet because I am still waiting for the results of the latest installation pioneered by 2 hho technological companies. Once I have seen their data that they have ironed out the minor bugs, I will announce it here in my blog.

We need this HHO computer to automatically monitor the hho gas production when it is introduced in the engine combustion chamber. Based on what I have seen so far on the latest installation, it looks promising especially when the oxyhydrogen gases can be controlled at different engine rpm. I was hoping that in the final analysis, this HHO computer will prevent damage in your engine.

NOTES:

I came across some hho videos last week accusing hho vendors as scammers which I found counter productive. Any potential buyers of HHO should look at the fact: although there are lots of talks about HHO scams, there is no harm in reading about this HHO experiment. All you have to do is get as much information as you can before investing on such product and make sure you have a licensed mechanic to help you install it. You should not put it in your engine if the vendor will not guaranty it and your mechanic has to agree that it will work. Most problem here is coming from folks who are to eager to install it without really studying the over-all effect of HHO system. And when you consider also the hype being used to sell this product, it is no wonder that the suspicion of scam is always coming out.

If you notice also, this HHO computer is another tool that worth waiting for to realize the full potential of having a workable HHO system. But unless I see the actual proven results in saving gas and emission, this blog will not be used to propagate a HHO system that does not work.

Thanks,

Richard

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Posted on July 12, 2009 - by Richard

HHO Control

This is part 2 HHO control blog for those gas saving driver enthusiasts.

When automatic HHO control was introduced early last year by Hydroxy Technologies Corporation (HTC), it caught everybody by surprise including myself. Up to that time a year ago, almost everybody was using a remote scan gauge and manually adjusting the sensor enhancer settings using their sensor enhancer adjusting knobs. This means, if you happened to forget to set your PMW properly and it happens that your HHO cell is overheating then you can say goodbye to your HHO cell. The same case can occur if the oxygen sensor is allowed to run in an open loop because the HHO EFIE setting is not set up accurately. This is true if the fuel mixture is lean and there is a big chance that you might damage your engine.

The main advantage of this automatic HHO control is the ability of the HHO cell to produce the right amount of oxyhydrogen gases for your engine. This is done by automatically adjusting all the sensor parameters at HHO cell start ups and set according to the vehicle driving conditions. Example: if the engine is idling, the HHO cell production is not needed and the PWM is set to limit hho gas entry to the combustion chamber. On the other hand, if the engine is revving high and running under load, the HHO cell gas production must be set high by the PWM device at a higher rate.

How does automatic HHO control works?

Instead of using a scan gage to monitor engine performance, a remote engine controller is mounted in your dash for you to monitor. Using transistors and electronic circuit board, all the sensor enhancer devices are hooked up into this controller including the engine rpm, hho unit temperature and OBD2 engine configuration of the ecm thru a wiring harness plugin. Using this system, one can set the HHO enhancer parameter reading/s at one sitting and there is no need to do any adjustment anymore unless the controller gives a signal for you to do otherwise. This means, a trouble free operation that will not damaged your engine including less HHO cell maintenance.

Note:

Sine the HHO cell hho gas production is controlled, less contaminants are produced inside the hho cell unit.

This HHO control device is called Vehicle Management Unit or VMU by HTC and shown below is a UTube video on how it works:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvIUNE87PCI&feature=channel_page

Feel free to ask ATS for wiring diagram for your engine if it is applicable to use this HHO control system for your vehicle.

Thanks!

Richard

Posted on September 15, 2008 - by Richard

Hydrogen Gas Cars Wirings Secrets For You!

The hydrogen gas cars wirings are important if you want to make HHO cell project to be successful. As outlined before, having a HHO generator alone will not save you gas unless your vehicle has no computer in the engine. Otherwise, all those electronic devices like the PWM, EFIE,Map/Mass sensor enhancer, on and off switches, relays, gages, fuses or circuit breakers…etc are required to maximize your gas savings results.

From watching various Utube videos, the hydrogen gas cars HHO cell generator with proper output alone can increase 5%-15% gas mileage on carburated or diesel engines. However when applied to fuel injected engines, most results showed dismal failure. As soon as PWM is added in the process, a dramatic increase happens but with the addition of the other devices, the mileage gains increase as much as 20% to 50%. Still others can surpass that with bigger capacity HHO cell by having more HHO cell plates or extra HHO cells and bubblers.(To date, ATS has not physically verified this but knowing the efficiency of hydrogen gas, this has to be expected).

NOTE:

On hydrogen gas cars wirings, the only way you can guaranty success is to continually test and tweak your engine computer and HHO output setting until you get the best result. Buying a complete HHO generator system package that was researched extensively by a HHO vendor that will give you a better edge instead of trying to start from scratch (and if you get a lot of time in your hands, you might do the research yourself but be prepared to get frustrated).

Shown on the Utube video HERE is the basic hydrogen gas cars wirings. Note the movie maker tried his best to put his best effort in outlining the system to make it safe for us. Based on this movie, there are still a lot of electronic components that can be added to make it more successful. ATS thank him for his dedication to HHO cause.

Looking at the above video, you should consider it as a basic wiring set up to guide you

A more advance feature can be bought which allows installer to test the HHO gas output production and at the same time, monitor your engine fuel mixture. This is to safeguard the HHO system in not making the fuel mixture too lean. At the same time, it can monitor your engine computer to produce optimum engine performance at a safe HHO gas output level. This is where an online automotive technician or garage mechanic can help you protect your engine. The bottom line is you do not want to save gas at the expense of premature engine failure.

ATS can help you install a HHO cell system for you: we can supply you all kinds of diagrams for your specific vehicle. Our wiring diagrams can show you the locations and colors of the wires to be used in both engine sensors and computer. Finally an online mechanic is always available from ATS to assist you to do the proper handling of your engine computer system. This is where most installers are having problems when the product you bought does not have the proper testing procedures for your hydrogen gas cars (engine testing while parked is the most important step even before you go for your first road test… it does not take too long to damage the engine while driving if you fail to do this).

Posted on September 14, 2008 - by Richard

Hydrogen Gas Cars Better Plans!

HHO Construction:

To have a successful installation of components for hydrogen gas cars, we need to understand the basic principle of HHO gas production. We all know the presence of metal plates immersed in water in our HHO cell. When DC current is being charged to these plates, hydrogen gas will go to the negative terminal called cathode while oxygen gases will go to the positive terminal called anode. If you notice, oxidation or rust is formed (shown in brown color fluids) and this comes from oxygen gas attacking the positive side of the terminal. To minimize this, the latest trend is to use stainless steel plates which has a good anti-rusting properties. Unlike hydrogen gas which does not corrode, it is important to stay away from using non-stainless parts for the plates including the plate holder rod, washers or any metal used in HHO cell. This is also the reason why newer designs for the hose connections, valves and fittings are made of plastic to prevent oxidation. Using this method, your HHO cell will have less maintenance when used in conjunction with distilled water and a catalyst.

HHO heat and setting up:

Another nagging problem for hydrogen gas cars is heat production during the process of electrolysis. This can be controlled by monitoring the HHO production rate using the PWM controller along with EFIE device so the input current can be set. One important factor I notice is that the more plates are used or more HHO cells added, the cooler will be the temperature of the HHO cell/s. When ordering your HHO cell from a vendor, make sure to ask the HHO rate of production which they will base on the size of your engine. However, when setting the PWM set points (amperage), the engine computer must be monitored. This can be done using an engine scanner which can display the oxygen sensor open/close loop settings.

Failing to do this on hydrogen gas cars can result in too lean combustion mixture which can raise the combustion chamber temperature and damage the engine. Some vendors include the scanner (scan gage) on their HHO cell kit to monitor the engine computer. Inspite of the added cost, it will give you a better protection for your investment. This is the reason that although HHO cell can help you save gas, it is critical to know that it will work only when added with other electronic devices mentioned above. And getting help from a licensed mechanic can help assure a successful hydrogen gas car installation (on one Utube video I saw the other day, a HHO cell installation worked great and save gas for a few days only to find his engine damaged because his mixture setting was too lean).

HHO Electrical Connections:

Use relay to automatically shut off the HHO cell when the engine is off. Use the proper wiring size for all your wiring connections preferably a size gage #10 or #8. This applies also to the relay or fuses being used which must be rated for the same wiring size. If not, electrical resistance or heat points will be created on the poor connection joints. If possible, solder all electrical connections to prevent heat producing contact points. I bet you can assemble a HHO cell unit for under $30 but if you really want to save gas on hydrogen gas cars, it is better to do it right not only to assure success but to keep your installation trouble free. In ATS, we provide unlimited online HHO installation assistance so you can do it right.

Shown in Utube video HERE is a successful Hydrogen Gas Cars HHO installation (34% mileage gain). ATS is grateful for the maker of the video and hope we can learn some technical stuff from his work.